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Inspiration from scientist Sean Carroll

Sean Carroll is a scientist and self-proclaimed truth vigilante who is leading some very important new discussions on the subject of naturalism and the meaning of life. Here’s a quote of his to whet your appetite: “The world keeps happening in accordance with its rules; it’s up to us to make sense of it and give it value.” His website is http://preposterousuniverse.com.

Below I am sharing more of the transcript from the phenomenal video I’m embedding above. To me it’s a fascinating lesson, and one that would have thrilled Mr. Kiefert, the creator of this website.

Excerpted from Sean Carroll’s “The Meaning of Life” (all rights reserved by the original copyright holder).

The world is one thing, the natural world, and it can be understood. This is very counter-intuitive; it is not at all obvious, this naturalism claim. You are made of atoms; you are made of cells which are made of molecules which are made of atoms, and as physicists, we know how atoms behave. The laws of physics covering the behavior of atoms are completely understood: You put an atom in a certain set of circumstances, you tell me what the circumstances are, as a physicist I will tell you what the atoms will do.

If you believe that the atoms that are inside your brain and your body act differently because they are in a living person than if they are in a rock or a crystal, then what you are saying is that the laws or physics are wrong. That they need to be altered because of the influence of a spirit or a soul or something like that. That may be true. Science can’t disprove that… but there is no evidence for it. And you get a much stronger explanatory framework by assuming that it’s just atoms obeying the laws of physics.

Paul’s Five Stage Model In the Development of Rational Consciousness by William C. Kiefert

The Practical Side of Heaven

The Practical Side of Heaven


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Originally written on July 30, 2003.

The idea of stages in consciousness has existed since antiquity. Hindu models begin with the householder stage and end with Moksha. The Buddha teaches the five noble truths. Islam teaches the five Nafs. And today, Abraham Maslow, Teithard deChardin, Joseph Campbell, and many other psychologists teach what are, in principle, similar models.

Unlike others who base stages of consciousness on historical, spiritual, or moral development, St. Paul alone bases his model on rational development. Paul knew that everything is one. He, therefore, understood that what we call spiritual or heart-felt thoughts are what we could today call undeveloped nonjudgmental rational thoughts. Understanding the modern theory of reality is the key to Stage IV in Paul’s five stage model of rational consciousness because it justifies a nonjudgmental system of logical laws, and in turn, nonjudgmental reasoning and a consciousness of oneness.

What brought you here?

Dave

Originally contributed by Dave Stoverden in Colorado on Dec. 28, 2003.

This is a new message board sponsored by a group called GnosticChristianity. It is an open discussion. William Keifert devoted many years to exploring and writing about a rationale for rethinking how Christians and others should think and act. But he has not been alone. There have been a host of prominent and well thought of people who have been reassessing the historical accuracy of the traditional stories of our religion. A recent book, The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown is intriguing because although fictional the backdrop has been well researched for the purposes of the book’s theme – a coverup of secrets that would expose the Catholic Church’s denigration of Mary Magdalene.

So, anyway, those are a few comments for you to ponder. What was your interest in joining the group?

Bridging Science and Religion in Three Steps by William C. Kiefert

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The Practical Side of Heaven


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Originally written on April 24, 2002.

Just as waves and particles are different dimensions of light, science and religion are different dimensions of one reality. To construct a bridge between science and religion, we must FIRST recognize that we cannot logically understand both within the same system of logical laws any more than we can understand waves in terms we use to explain particles.

Where are Jesus’ private teachings?

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The Practical Side of Heaven


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A recent visitor to GnosticChristianity.com submitted this question: So where are Jesus’ private teachings? Outside of what was left in the bible, that is. How are you getting your information to be able to make these claims?

In reply, here are the thoughts of John Miller, Ph.D., whose contributions to GnosticChristiany.com are many and great. This information is published here with Dr. Miller’s permission, and all rights are hereby reserved.

I have been asked to respond to your query concerning Jesus’ gnostic teachings.  Obviously, if they were secret, they are not written down for public viewing.  In the thirteenth chapter of the Gospel of Matthew, we read (Jesus is speaking to his disciples here): Unto you is given to knew the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.  Therefore speak I to them in parables, because they seeing, see not; and hearing, they hear not, neither do they understand.”  Similar passages are found in the Gospels of Mark and Luke. 

Gnostic knowledge

Originally contributed on March 22, 2005.

Hello. I’m new to this group and would like to introduce myself.  As you can see from my member name, it’s Sandy.  I have taken an increasing interest in Gnosticism.  I’ll be honest, my interest all started about a year ago after reading the infamous book “The Da Vinci Code”….lol.  A book I thoroughly enjoyed, BTW.  From that point on, I went on an adventure to read everything I could about Mary Magdalene, Jesus, the Priory Sion, etc.  So now in my little library of paperbacks I have several books, “Holy Blood, Holy Grail”, “The Messianic Legacy”, “The Gospel of Mary”, two books by Elaine Pagels, “The Gnostic Gospels”, “Beyond Belief-The secret Gospel of Thomas” (both books which I have read and really liked.)  I also have another book by Mrs. Pagels “Adam, Eve and the Serpent”, which I have yet to read.  The Gospel of Thomas really interests me, so I am currently reading “The Gnostic Gospel of St. Thomas- Meditations on the Mystical Teachings” by Tau Malachi.  I throughly enjoy this book, because it takes the Gospel verse by verse and gives some very interesting interpretations of each verse. 

I have had an interest in Astrology and Metaphysics for several years now, too. 

Everything we know about Jesus by William C. Kiefert

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The Practical Side of Heaven


Copyright William C. Kiefert. All Rights Reserved.

Originally written on April 24, 2002.

It is as difficult to push square pegs into round holes as it is to stuff everything we know about Jesus into one box. To do “on earth as it is in heaven” and also the “greater things” Jesus promised we could, we must stop limiting him to the “historical method” of interpretation. This is an outdated product of the Roman Emperor Constantine’s demand at the Council of Nicaea (325AD) that the church be unified under “one” doctrine.

Jesus did more than die for us. He also taught us a godlike, non-judgmental process of reasoning, the logos or logic of God. Combining the non-judgmental logic with the present judgmental process (Aristotelian Logic) expands our consciousness of reality. In this renewed or enlightened consciousness, unused potentials of our mind are awakened, empowering us to do what Jesus promised we could.

In John 8: 31-32jvb, for example, Jesus said: “If you make my word your home, you will learn the truth and the truth will set you free.” The Word or Will of God

Spiritual Logic by William C. Kiefert

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The Practical Side of Heaven


Copyright William C. Kiefert. All Rights Reserved.

Originally written on March 27, 2001.

Excerpted from “Spiritual Logic” by William C. Kiefert: Spiritual logic is the missing link between mind and spirit. I propose that an assumed principle, and the laws of logic it justifies, is the cause behind the judgmental character of civilized man’s “method” of reasoning. It is this principle that pits mind against spirit.

Summary
The power of prayer, meditation, spiritual knowledge, science and our own experiences demonstrate that our thoughts have, within them, the power to create our everyday reality. Prayers, meditation, hypnotism, and the paranormal introduce us to our latent creative powers. Spiritual logic is the key to unlock those potentials so that everyone might use them on an everyday basis.

In the past,

Solving Biblical Mysteries #39 from William C. Kiefert

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The Practical Side of Heaven


Copyright William C. Kiefert. All Rights Reserved.

Originally written on May 9, 2002.

Dear friends:

Homophobia is the product of a grave misinterpretation of Paul’s letter to the Romans (1:27). That mistake cannot be recognized from the Judaic-Christian worldview. To understand this mistake, Romans 1:27 must be understood in Paul’s worldview; i.e. that of a Gnostic Christian.

Please consider reading “Does the Bible Condemn Homosexuality?” below, which comes from the Solving Biblical Mysteries section of my book, “The Practical Side of Heaven.” I believe reading this can open the door to the correct interpretation of Romans 1:27, which, in turn, eliminates the “cause” of homophobia.

Your thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
William C. Kiefert

Does the Bible condemn homosexuality?
The condemnation of homosexuality is not authentic to early Christianity for two reasons.

On the right track, or not?

To stimulate thoughts and conversations, it’s my pleasure to share this 2004 exchange from our message board between Ron Matrisch and Dave Stoverden.

Community member Ron Matrisch.

Community member Ron Matrisch.

From Ron Matrisch: My reason for joining this group was to find others that think like I do. All of the text that the “church” has banned or tried to hide from the world such as the Gnostic text sparks my interest. In my opinion the “church” has done its best to keep its power and control, and anything that takes that power away from them is considered (by them) not of God. Instead of teaching the truth they give us half truths and outright lies. It does say that in the end times that knowledge will be increased. I say it will be the truth that has been hidden from us all of these years.

From Dave Stoverden: Absolutely right Revron8. But when you speak of “truth” I get kinda uneasy